Monday, August 17, 2009

What is the Good Life?

Discussions in the course thus far have centered on questions concerning the good life (What does it mean to live a good life? What are the necessary components of a good life? Is the good life different for everyone?). As we read last week, in the Nicomachean Ethics Aristotle argues that friendship is a necessary component of the excellent life. Aristotle writes, "[friendship] is most necessary for our life. For no one would choose to live without friends even if he had all other goods (NE 1155a). The "complete friend" (as opposed to the friend of pleasure or utility) is a reflection of our own self, one who lives with us and allows us to become more virtuous.

Many in the class shared Aristotle's view that friendship is necessary for their own good life. But is friendship enough? Given our writing responses on this question it would seem not. Components of the good life for the class include the following: education, love, family, helping others, having a positive attitude, being comfortable, religion and faith, having no fear, having self-respect, financial stability. Quite a diverse list! So, how do we decide what the good life is?

This week we have been reading Plato's Apology. Here we find even more components of the good life. During his trial Socrates argues that a good life requires self-examination (indeed, Socrates argues that the unexamined life is not even worth living) and virtue of the soul. He dismisses material possessions and wealth as having anything to do with living well.

Do Socrates' considerations help us in our discussion? Do you agree with Socrates' characterization of the good life? Perhaps most importantly, can we ever arrive at any solid conclusions on what, exactly, a good life actually is?

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  1. I personally don't think we would come to a conclusion because a good life means different things to certain people, some can have a good life without friends and ect. and some can't,but Socrates' does help us a little because he help's us to dig deeper and use our mind to think before we speak and find out the origin of certain situation. From April Holman

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  2. WELL I DO AGREE WITH SOCRATES ON CERTAIN POINTS , BUT IN REALITY EVERYONE HAS HIS OR HER OWN MEANING OF LIVING A GOOD LIFE, AND WHETHER A FRIEND IS NEEDED. HOWEVER HIS CHARACTERIZATIONS DO HELP BECAUSE HE HELPS ONE TO GET TO THE CORE MEANING OF EVERY SITUATION THAT ONE WILL FACE IN LIFE. OTHER THAN THAT, I DO NOT THINK THAT NO ONE WILL EVER COME TO CONCLUSION ABOUT EXACTLY WHAT LIVING A GOOD LIFE CONSISTS OF BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS THEIR OWN PERSPECTIVE OF LIFE AND WHAT HELPS ONE TO ENJOY IT..

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  4. Good thoughts here April and Tia. Thanks for your insightful posts. I look forward to hearing from the rest of the class on this. For starters, though, perhaps there elements of a good life that are fundamental(as in, shared by all)? For example, being in good health could be part of the good life for people who are otherwise very different in their values and beliefs. At any rate, it is a possibility to consider.

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  5. everyone has there own way of living a good life but as socrates said you realy dont need anything to live a good life. but for me JC i need my mother to live a good life. because i see it as if your mother is not happy how can you be happy. my mother comes first in everything i would rather her life be great because in the end i knw my life is gonig to be great.

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  6. In my opinion, I am in awe of the way sacrates defined a good life. I agree with his opinion because people and materialistic things does not make a person who they are, you do. If you have lived by the golden rule and went through life living as a good person then you have lived a good life. Now that I have saw it from a different perspective, I no longer believe that your surroundings define a good life. Although many people may disagree, I know that they have differnt point of views on what makes up a good life.

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  7. I think that a good life is determined by the person who is living the life. Every individual has their own definition of what a good life is. The good life is a life that one strives to get to. Sometimes that good life may be filled with materialistic things and some may be mainly based on whether there is someone to have a good life with. THE GOOD LIFE IS UNPREDICTABLE!

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  8. I love socrates components of a good life and I totally agree with him. Material things and friends do not define you as a person and certainly wont be there on your judgement day!Sice I have a good understanding of socrates components to a good like I realize that what we wear, know, say, do and how much money one has does not define a good life! Im speaking of this solely because of my my religion because everthing socrates said about a good life complies with that!

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  9. I agree with Socrates that friendship is a key component but only a friend of virtue. If you have a friend that always wishes good amongst you then you certainly will live a good life.

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    I strongly feel that to live a good life means your life is not spinning out of control. I'm not saying that it's perfect but good and comfortable. What I mean by that is when a person living a good life wakes up, they don't have worries of unpaid bills or debt to pay off. Instead they have joy in their hearts. Even when times are tough, a person living a good life tries to make sure everything they do does not STOP them from living a good life. For example, A well known athlete is known for his or her athletic abilities and the involvement in his or her community. A time comes when this athlete has to make an decision rather or not to shoot paint balls out at innocent bystanders as they drive by. This athlete knows that if they participate in this act that thay will be known for some far more worse than they ever thought. In conclusion, living a good life to me means that you take care of others and not expect anything in return. Even if you barely have it, living a good life means to be caring of yourself and others while making sure that the good life is blessed upon them everyday.

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  11. I think that Socrates had a very interesting point of view when desribing his thoughts of what is a good life. Socrates made unwise decisions that people in the present day would have not. He chose to die for his beliefs of wisdom and virtue but I honestly think people today would not die for their beliefs as quickly because people value their lives.

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  12. Socrats had a good point when he desribing hs thoughts of a good life. Socrates dies for wha he believe to be his good life. Many thngs can clasified as a good life but many people choose ot to live a good life. Trust and friendshp is the key components to have a good life

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  13. I am pro on the side of Socrates. He agrees with me that material possesions are not the making of a good life. If fact it they are the essences of a bad life. I pitty the fool who thinks that that they need money to have a good life. one also does ot need anyone else to make their life a good life. I must point out that they have proven to me that they can only depend on others and not them selves.

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  14. I agree with Aristotle's view that friendship is a necessity....I personally think a good life has to include family and friends. It's just different people put more emphasis on certain components. The discussions we had in calss were very interesting. Everyone has their own opinion and i am ready to argue my perspective of things

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  15. A good life would be a life filled with joy and happiness. Not meaning having all the materialistic thigs such as money,cars,clothes, and etc.Need to learn and depend on, god to worship andprasise, and a family for both love and support. I agree with socrates because you do need the wisdom not of someonw who knows the basics of life and health to keeo you up and in action. when you have those necessities then you can say you have a good life!

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  16. living a life doesnt necceasarily means to be happy at all times, it means that you will have trails and trigulations and life is going to be a tough challenge.
    REGINALD J

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  17. I think the good life is one that is righteous and virtuous.Along with that, it has God involved in it.Not just riches materially.Autumn Jones

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  18. The good life is living the way that you want to live with-in reasoning. If that means having thosands of dollars, cars, girlfriends, etc. then so be it. We all have our opinions about what the good life is.

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  19. Nobody really knows what it takes to live a good life. Living a good life does not mean you have to be happy all the time because you will go threw bad times in your life that will allow you to be happy. Rondarius Johnson

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  20. I do agree with Socrates in how he described what a good life is. No one can live perfect with materialistic things or money only. Happiness comes from within. it comes from the heart , the soul, and the mind. You have to keep down what happiness is in order to be happy or have a good life.......

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  21. To live a good life is not to have an easy life. For if you have everything in the world you have nothing to gain and much to lose while a poor man has much to gain and nothing to lose. As said by many, material possessions shouldn't be the primary source of happiness. A good life is one that is used constructively and which is long and filled with good health. A life without obstacles isn't a life at all. Therefore in order for a person to have a good life you will need something to transcend and become better ultimately because of that situation.

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  22. I agree with Socrates because you do need the wisdom and knowledge not of someone who knows the basics of life and health to keep you up and in action. when you have those necessities then you can say you have a good life!

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